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RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

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IT SOUNDS LIKE WE SHOULD GET GOING.

YEAH, YOU BET. LET'S GET GOING.

[CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL]

I WILL OPEN UP THE FEBRUARY 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS ON THE AGENDA TODAY, AND WE WILL START WITH A ROLL CALL.

ALL RIGHT, AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TODAY IS TO ELECT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICERS FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THE FIRST ELECTION WE WILL HAVE BEFORE THE REST OF THE MEETING STARTS IS THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR FOR THE COMING YEAR.

SO IF I COULD GET A LITTLE BIT OF INTERJECTION HERE.

TYPICALLY, WE DO THIS AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, FIRST MEETING THAT WE CONVENED LAST YEAR THINGS STRETCHED OUT AND IT WASN'T UNTIL JUNE UNTIL THE OFFICERS WERE ELECTED AND CHAIR SAHNOW VP OR VICE CHAIR KAISER AND VARGAS IS SECRETARY TREASURER AT THE MOMENT.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT, GIVEN THAT SHORT TIME HORIZON, YOU COULD PUT FORWARD THE SAME SLATE OR MIX IT UP.

JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN HOW YOUR TERM ENDED UP BEING SHORT, BUT THAT WE DO TRY TO DO THIS AT THE FIRST MEETING OF EVERY YEAR THAT WE CAN BE.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT GOES AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHAT WE DO IS TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR EACH POSITION.

IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE NOMINATION, THEN WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE FOR THAT POSITION BEFORE WE MOVE TO ELECT.

IF THERE'S ONE NOMINATION, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY ACCEPT A MOTION TO ELECT RIGHT AWAY SO COMMISSIONERS CAN NOMINATE THEMSELVES OR EACH OTHER , AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT CLUNKY, BUT WE'LL MUDDLE THROUGH IT.

WE GOT THROUGH THE EDA YESTERDAY, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND WE CAN GET RIGHT AFTER IT.

SO IF THERE'S NOMINATION FOR CHAIR, WE COULD START THERE.

THE MOTION MOVED TO ELECT ERIC SAHNOW AS CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WELL, FIRST, LET'S TAKE ALL NOMINATIONS AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS, LET'S DISCUSS THAT FIRST, BUT--STAY THE COURSE.

NO, IT'S ALL GOOD.

IF THERE AREN'T ANY, WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT MOTION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? KIND OF LIKE JUST KEEP IT THE SAME, JUST SINCE IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, REALLY.

YEAH, AND I HAVE 100% APPRECIATE THAT.

SO IF EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH [INAUDIBLE] VERY HAPPY WITH THAT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I'M OPEN TO A CEREMONIAL REMOVAL,[CHUCKLING] SURE, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ZEROING IN ON IS THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE TO ELECT CHAIR SAHNOW AND TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE IF WE CAN.

SO, MARK, WOULD YOU MIND MOVING AGAIN? THANK YOU. MAKE A MOVE TO SELECT ERIC SAHNOW AS CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'LL SECOND THAT. [INAUDIBLE] I'D VOTE FOR YOU.

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE YOU FROM YOUR CHAIR.

[CHUCKLING] SO THAT WAS KIND OF [INAUDIBLE] THE WALK OF SHAME.

[CHUCKLING] THAT CAN MAKE FOR AN AWKWARD MOMENT.

ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT? MAKE A MOVE TO ELECT TOM KAISER AS VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECONDED. ANYBODY? THAT SOUNDS GOOD. OH, SORRY.

IT WASN'T MOVED YET. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL MOVE TO ELECT MR. VARGAS TO CONTINUE HIS ROLE AS SECRETARY TREASURER.

OH, WE SHOULD TAKE THE VOTE ON VICE CHAIR FIRST.

WE HAD THE MOTION AND A SECOND FOR KAISER, AND NOW WE JUST NEED THE VOTE.

GREAT. ONE SECOND.

WE'LL VOTE ON VICE CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, AND NOW WE WOULD TAKE A MOTION.

WELL, I WILL NOMINATE MARK FOR THE SECRETARY TREASURER POSITION.

I'LL SECOND THAT AS LONG AS WE CAN GIVE THAT POSITION MORE DUTIES.

[CHUCKLING] IT'S PRETTY RIGOROUS.

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HE WAS ASKING FOR A WHOLE LOT MORE RESPONSIBILITY.

MAYBE YOU COULD ADD ONE OR TWO MORE THINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I WAS THE SECOND. A SECOND, OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON? ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST OR THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 1ST,

[APPROVE MINUTES]

2022 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE CAN DO ALL IN FAVOR ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES.

PERFECT. REALLY? THAT WAS OUR LAST MEETING.

IT WAS NOVEMBER? YEAH. YEAH. WOW.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT.

2023 IS LOOKING TO BE A BUSY YEAR, SO WE'LL [INAUDIBLE] MAYBE AT THE END.

YEAH, WE WILL MAKE UP.

JUST QUICKLY BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THE FIRST ITEM, MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ON MINERVA HARK, BECAUSE WE STILL ARE WITH NEC CONSULTING AND THEY'LL BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING.

MINERVA DID TENDER HER RESIGNATION ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

'GOING TO FOCUS ON FAMILY FOR NOW, SO WE'RE DEFINITELY SAD TO SEE HER GO IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THAT REPLACEMENT AND HAVE ALL THE APPLICATIONS IN, AND WE'LL BEGIN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS SOON.

SO IT'S LIKELY THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE WOULD HAVE A FULL TIME PLANNER BACK WITH THE CITY.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

THANK YOU. I'M ON MY WAY OUT.

MAYBE I CAN WORK INTO IT.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS PORTION OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

RUFF LOVE, LLC ON BEHALF OF LLC AND KEA HOLDINGS HAS REQUESTED APPROVAL OF A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ACCOMMODATE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A DOG DAYCARE AND BOARDING FACILITY ON AN APPROXIMATE 11,000 SQUARE FOOT SITE LOCATED AT 3801 3RD STREET, JUST NORTH OF 38TH AVENUE AND WEST OF UNIVERSITY.

HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SLIDE THERE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY.

THE APPLICANT PLANS TO CONVERT AN EXISTING 6300 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING LOCATED ON THE SITE INTO THE DOG DAYCARE AND BOARDING FACILITY. THIS BUILDING WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY PADDLE NORTH.

THE PROPOSED USE WOULD OCCUPY THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

THIS SITE IS BORDERED ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH BY INDUSTRIAL USES ON THE EAST BY UNIVERSITY AVENUE AND MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES ACROSS UNIVERSITY AND THE WEST BY SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS.

THIS SITE IS ZONED I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH CURRENTLY DOES NOT MAKE AN ALLOWANCE FOR ANIMAL KENNELS OR DOG DAYCARE OR BOARDING USES SUCH AS THAT PROPOSED.

AS A RESULT, IT IS NECESSARY TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE THE MECHANISM OR MEANS TO ALLOW THIS ACTIVITY ON THE SITE SO THAT ACTION WOULD [INAUDIBLE] ACTION ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

AT PRESENT, ONLY THE CITY'S GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT MAKES AN ALLOWANCE FOR ANIMAL KENNELS.

THEY ARE ALLOWED BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO BE NOTED IS THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGE WOULD APPLY TO ALL PROPERTIES HAVING AN I-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DESIGNATION, WHILE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD BE SITE SPECIFIC AND THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED WOULD BE SITE SPECIFIC. IF APPROVED, THE DOG DAYCARE AND BOARDING FACILITY WILL BE RELOCATED FROM ITS CURRENT LOCATION IN NORTHEAST MINNEAPOLIS.

THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE NEW LOCATION WOULD ACCEPT UP TO 100 DOGS A DAY AND HAVE A MAXIMUM OF SIX EMPLOYEES ON THE SITE AT ONE TIME, EXCEPT FOR A NEW DOG RUN AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

NO EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING SITE OR BUILDING ARE PROPOSED.

AS MENTIONED, THE FIRST ACTION ITEM IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS THE OPINION OF STAFF THAT ANIMAL KENNELS AND OR

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SHELTERS CAN COMPATIBLY EXIST WITHIN THIS DISTRICT, PROVIDED CERTAIN PRECAUTIONS ARE IMPOSED TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS. IT IS RELATIVELY COMMON TO ALLOW THIS TYPE OF USE IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS JUST FROM A GENERAL PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.

THE ZONING ORDINANCE PRESENTLY INCLUDES SOME KENNEL SPECIFIC STANDARDS.

HOWEVER, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE STANDARDS BE EXPANDED TO PROVIDE MORE COMPREHENSIVE TO ADDRESS ISSUES IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE MANNER.

STAFF DID RESEARCH ANIMAL KENNEL STANDARDS IMPOSED BY VARIOUS CITIES.

THE STANDARDS INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT AMENDMENT LARGELY REFLECT STANDARDS IMPOSED BY THE CITY OF NEW HOPE IN A RECENT AMENDMENT, AND THEY ALSO INCORPORATE FEEDBACK FROM THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE ASSOCIATION OF SHELTER VETERINARIANS IN REGARD TO KENNEL SIZE REQUIREMENTS.

THE AMENDMENT HAS SORT OF THREE COMPONENTS OR SECTIONS.

THE FIRST IS PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THE CURRENT DEFINITION OF KENNEL AS PROVIDED IN THE ORDINANCE.

SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE SUGGESTING IT BE MODIFIED TO CLARIFY THE ALLOWANCE OF ANIMAL DAYCARE, SUCH THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION AS FALLING UNDER THAT UMBRELLA AND THEN JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONSISTENCY, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE TERM KENNEL BE EXPANDED TO ANIMAL KENNEL OR ANIMAL SHELTER, BECAUSE IN THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT THAT IS THE REFERENCE THAT IS INCLUDED.

SO WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE IN THE TERMS THAT ARE USED.

THE SECOND PART OF THE AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY ADDING ANIMAL KENNELS AS AN ALLOWED CONDITIONAL USE IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND THE THIRD PART OF THE AMENDMENT IS THE ADDITION OF SOME.

CONDITIONS RELATED TO THIS ACTIVITY.

PRESENTLY, THE ORDINANCE HAS A SET OF FOUR CONDITIONS THAT APPLY TO ANIMAL KENNELS AND A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL KENNELS OR KENNEL RELATED CONDITIONS ARE PROPOSED. I'LL JUST VERY QUICKLY HIT ON THEM.

CURRENTLY, THE ORDINANCE REFERENCES THE NEED TO APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

IT STATES THAT OUTDOOR KENNELS ARE PROHIBITED.

IT SAYS THAT OUTDOOR SPACES RELATED TO KENNEL USE MUST BE SCREENED FROM NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL USES, AND ALSO THAT INDOOR ACTIVITIES INCLUDE SOUNDPROOFING.

SO IN REGARD TO THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY SPACES, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A CONDITION THAT THE SPACE BE CLEANED REGULARLY SO AS NOT TO CREATE A NUISANCE AS DEFINED BY CITY CODE.

THAT DOES APPLY, BUT WE JUST WANT IT MEMORIALIZED IN THE CONDITIONS.

SECONDLY, A CONDITION RELATED TO ANIMAL WASTE, SPECIFICALLY THAT IT NOT BE ALLOWED TO DIRECTLY ENTER THE CITY STORM SEWER SYSTEM, AND THAT CONDITION HAS BEEN ADDED BASED ON FEEDBACK PROVIDED BY THE CITY ENGINEER IN REGARD TO DRAINAGE WITHIN THE OUTDOOR RUN AREA.

STAFF IS PROPOSING SOME ADDITIONS TO INDOOR ACTIVITIES, SPECIFICALLY A MINIMUM FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENT FOR EACH DOG AND SPECIFICALLY 48 SQUARE FEET PER DOG HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED AS PER THE ASSOCIATION OF SHELTER VETERANS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON DENSITY OF DOG DENSITY.

ALSO REFERENCING TEMPERATURE WITHIN THE KENNEL, 60 TO 80 DEGREES IS PROPOSED, WHILE DETAILS SPECIFICALLY AREAS LOWER THAN FOUR FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE FOR SANITARY REASONS.

THE SAME IN RELATION TO FLOOR FINISHES IMPERVIOUS SURFACES RECOMMENDED.

ALSO, A CONDITION IS PROPOSED THAT ANIMAL WASTE BE IMMEDIATELY CLEANED UP AND CONTAINED AND THAT ANIMAL WASTE BE DISPOSED OF ON A DAILY BASIS, AND FINALLY, THAT THE SHELTER OR KENNEL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT LIGHTING WITHIN THE KENNEL AREA.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE FIRST ACTION ITEM THAT MUST BE APPROVED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS SPECIFIC TO THE SITE.

JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE REVIEW.

ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED FROM THE SOUTH FROM 38TH AVENUE.

NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED IN THAT REGARD.

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THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT INCLUDE A PARKING SUPPLY REQUIREMENT FOR ANIMAL KENNELS.

THE APPLICANT'S SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATES TEN OFF STREET PARKING STALLS, ONE OF WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A DISABILITY STALL.

AS INDICATED, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT A MAXIMUM OF SIX EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON SITE AT ONE TIME.

IN THIS REGARD, STAFF FEELS THAT TEN SPACES ARE ADEQUATE, BASICALLY SIX SPACES THAT ADD A MAXIMUM FOR EMPLOYEES AND FOUR SPACES FOR CUSTOMER PARKING.

SO WE THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT A MINIMUM OF TEN STALLS BE PROVIDED ON SITE AS A CONDITION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL.

QUICK COMMENT ON PARKING AREA SETBACKS.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES SIDE AND REAR YARDS OF PARKING AREAS TO HAVE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK.

PRESENTLY, THERE BASICALLY IS NO PARKING LOT SETBACK.

HOWEVER, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A LEGAL NONCONFORMING CONDITION.

WE'RE JUST RECOGNIZING THAT IT IS A CONTINUANCE OF A LEGAL ACTIVITY IN REGARD TO THE DOG RUN HAS MENTIONED MEASURES APPROXIMATELY 1300 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

STAFF CONSIDERS THE PLACEMENT OF THE DOG RUN AREA TO BE WELL-DESIGNED IN TERMS OF MINIMIZING IMPACTS UPON RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. THE RUN AREA ABUTS INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH AND WEST AND FACES AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING TO THE SOUTH.

THE RUN AREA WILL BE SCREENED FROM VIEW OF HOMES ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF UNIVERSITY VIA A SIX FOOT HIGH WOOD PANEL FENCE.

THAT FENCE DOES MEET APPLICABLE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

ALSO OF NOTE IS THAT THERE IS SOME VEGETATION WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY WHICH DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING.

SO IN REGARD TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, ALL THOSE CONDITIONS WHICH APPLY TO THE OUTDOOR RUN AREA AS IDENTIFIED IN THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE APPLIED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

JUST ONE FURTHER COMMENT RELATED TO THAT IS THAT STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO AVOID ANY SORT OF ACT UPON THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH WOULD CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE.

THERE ARE PROVISIONS OF THE NUISANCE OR THAT RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE KEEPING OF DOGS.

THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THOSE ARE NOT IDENTIFIED IN DETAIL, BUT A CROSS REFERENCE IS PROVIDED IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

AGAIN, INDOOR ACTIVITIES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE, SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS OF THE AMENDMENT WOULD LIKEWISE APPLY TO INDOOR ACTIVITIES, SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICS.

BUSINESS HOURS.

THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT BOARDING ACTIVITIES WILL OCCUR ON A 24-HOUR BASIS.

IT HAS NOT BEEN INDICATED, HOWEVER, IF ANY BUSINESS HOURS ARE TO BE ESTABLISHED FOR CUSTOMERS DROPPING OFF AND PICKING UP THEIR DOGS.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT CUSTOMER BUSINESS HOURS BE ESTABLISHED AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE CITY.

THE IDEA IS NOT TO ALLOW DROP OFF AND PICK UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AFTER YOUR NIGHT OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THE SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATES A LOADING AREA.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT CLEAR IF TRASH HANDLING IS TO OCCUR OUTDOORS OR INDOORS IF IT IS OUTSIDE.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LOCATION IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN AND ALSO THAT IF IT IS OUTSIDE, IT MEETS THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY THREE SIDES OF THAT TRASH HANDLING AREA.

ALSO, AS A CONDITION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANT BE LICENSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NOTIFICATION WAS SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 350 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE COMMENTS FROM VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS.

ONE OF THE COMMENTS OR SUMMARY OF COMMENTS IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER LOCATED KITTY CORNER TO THE TO THIS SITE TO THE SOUTH WEST, WHICH HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE USE.

WE'VE ALSO, AND I THINK THIS WAS PART OF THE HANDOUTS, RECEIVED A LETTER FROM A PROPERTY OWNER APPROXIMATELY A BLOCK SOUTHWEST OF THIS PROPERTY ON THE

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NEIGHBORING STREET TO THE WEST.

SHE JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USE IN REGARD TO NOISE AND SO FORTH, AND ALSO INCLUDED IN THE HANDOUTS.

THERE IS A CORRESPONDENCE FROM A RESIDENT WHO LIVES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE APPLICANT'S EXISTING DAYCARE, DOG DAYCARE AND BASICALLY ENDORSES THE USE.

HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, SEEN THE OTHER TWO LETTERS THAT WERE HERE? YEAH, AND JUST THE DRAFT AMENDMENT HAD BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO OTHER STAFF AND SPECIFICALLY THE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED RELATED TO THE CONTROL OF WASTE WITHIN THE CITY STORM SEWER SYSTEM, BASICALLY THAT IT NOT BE ALLOWED TO DIRECTLY ENTER THAT SYSTEM, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD BE THROUGH LIKE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF TURF WITHIN THE OUTDOOR RUN AREA.

SO IT'S FILTERED.

WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS 1682, WHICH WOULD MAKE AN ALLOWANCE FOR ANIMAL KENNELS AND OR SHELTERS AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE CITY'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT AND SECONDLY, IF THE ACTION IS APPROVAL TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3801 3RD STREET, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND RESOLUTION 2023-09.

SO WITH THAT, I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

YEP, THE APPLICANT IS HERE NOW IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ALSO.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR REFERRING TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

DO WE HAVE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS? OR IS IT ALL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS WE HAVE IT? HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TYPICALLY INVOLVES MANUFACTURING PRODUCT AND WHERE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS MORE DISTRIBUTION.

DO WE MOSTLY HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS? YES, I DON'T HAVE A ZONING MAP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S PREDOMINANTLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CALL IT HEAVY, WE CALL IT I-2.

THEY'RE SO VERY SIMILAR.

I DIDN'T NOTICE A DISTINCTION ON THE MAP.

IT'S HARD. SO I WASN'T SURE [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, AND THEN I GUESS I'M KIND OF WONDERING, YOU SAID THAT IF WE ADOPT THIS CHANGE, THERE'S STILL THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THAT IS APPLIED.

THAT'S CORRECT. IF A SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED ON ANOTHER I-1, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL OVERSIGHT.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

ONE OF US, YEAH. IF AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY OR A BUSINESS HAS A CONDITIONAL CONDITIONAL USE, BUSINESS PERMIT THEN SELLS THE BUSINESS, DOES THE PERMIT GO TO THE SALE, THE TRANSACTION OF THE BUSINESS? GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER VARGAS CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS DO CARRY WITH THE LAND SO A KENNEL OWNER COULD SELL TO ANOTHER KENNEL OWNER AND BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME CONDITIONS IF THEY SOLD IT TO A DIFFERENT USE, AND THE KENNEL WAS DISCONTINUED FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR, THEN IT WOULD EXPIRE OR AUTOMATICALLY BE REVOKED.

SO IT CARRIES WITH THE TITLE FOR A PERIOD OF A YEAR AND SOMETIMES IT IS CHALLENGING TO DETERMINE DISCONTINUANCE OF USE. YOU KNOW, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, IF WE DON'T HAVE PERFECT INFORMATION AS TO WHEN IT STARTED AND STOPPED, BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TIMES WE DO GET INVOLVED IN THAT FORENSIC ANALYSIS.

AGAIN, I HAVE A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL QUESTION.

IF WE HAD A PROJECT INVOLVING A GYM HERE LAST YEAR DOES THAT FALL UNDER THE SAME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? NO, SO THAT ROCKY'S GYM PROPOSAL WAS LIMITED BUSINESS DISTRICT.

YEAH, ON 40TH AVENUE.

REGARDLESS, THE ULTIMATE UNDOING OF THE PROJECT WAS THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE SPRINKLERS BECAUSE THERE WAS GOING TO BE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN THERE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX PEOPLE IN HERE, AND I DON'T HEAR SPRINKLERS OR ANY TYPE OF EGRESS PLAN.

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 100 DOGS IF THERE'S A FIRE? SO IT'S ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.

THIS PROJECT IS BUTTING UP AGAINST THAT SAME SPRINKLER REQUIREMENT, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

YESTERDAY EVENING, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY APPROVED A SIGNIFICANT GRANT TO AID IN THE INSTALLATION OF FIRE

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SPRINKLERS FOR THIS BUILDING.

SO SAME DYNAMICS AS ROCKY'S GYM.

THAT GRANT WAS AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME.

IT JUST STRETCHED OUT AND WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN COMBINE AN AMENDMENT WITH A GRANT IN THIS CASE, BUT A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.

FIRE SUPPRESSION REQUIREMENTS AREN'T THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT MOST DEFINITELY WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND THE CITY HAS ADOPTED A STRICTER FIRE CODE WHERE A LOT OF OUR OLDER BUILDINGS, WHEN THEY CHANGE, USE AND NOT USE IN A ZONING SENSE, BUT USE IN A BUILDING CODE ANALYSIS SENSE, IT'S REQUIRED THAT SPRINKLERS ARE INSTALLED FOR ALMOST ANYTHING OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET.

SO YEAH, THE GRANT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.

YEAH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I GOT TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

WHO WATCHES THAT THE CONDITIONAL USES ARE, I MEAN, YOUR FOUR FOOT WALLS, RIGHT? BUILDING INSPECTOR.

SO THERE WOULD BE LIKELY A HANDFUL OF PERMITS INVOLVED IN THE BUILD OUT OF THIS WHERE OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL COULD MONITOR.

IF NOT, PLANNING STAFF WOULD VERIFY THE FENCE AND ANY OF THE DOG RUN IMPROVEMENTS.

ASK FOR A TOUR OF THE BUILDING FOR THE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST A PLUMBING PERMIT, I THINK, ON THIS PROJECT AND THAT'S WHERE WE LEAN IN ON THE BUILDING.

OFFICIAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE OTHER CONDITIONS, THEY'RE GUARDING IN MANY WAYS AGAINST THE NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS.

SO IF A NUISANCE ARISES, THAT'S WHEN THE CITY APPLIES THOSE CONDITIONS THROUGH A ZONING ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT ANIMAL WASTE IN THE STORM SEWER.

I ASSUME WE ALL ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING DOWN THE SANITARY SEWER.

IS THAT THE WAY IT WORKS? SO SOLIDS, NO, YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LEAN IN ON THE APPLICANT, BUT SOLIDS ARE NOT MAKING THEIR WAY THERE.

YOU COULD PROVIDE INSIGHT ON HOW THEY RINSE DOWN THE FLOORS AND WALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD GO TO A FLOOR DRAIN FOR THE NON SOLIDS.

SO. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE, THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DEFINITION OF OF KENNEL AND THEN ADDING SOME MORE SPECIFICS BASED ON RESEARCH THAT CITY STAFF DID BASED ON THE I-2 CONDITIONAL USE.

ARE WE ANTICIPATING THESE SAME PROVISIONS BEING CHANGED TO THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AS WELL? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

YEAH, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS SET UP FOR EACH DISTRICT, THERE'S A LISTING OF ALLOWED USES AND THEN THERE'S SORT OF A SEPARATE SECTION WHERE SPECIFIC STANDARDS ARE ESTABLISHED THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO DIFFERENT USES, AND SO NO MATTER THE ZONING DISTRICT, THESE REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY.

HOWEVER, IN REGARD TO THE EXISTING FACILITY, THEY MUST ABIDE BY THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR ORIGINAL APPROVAL IF THEY DID DECIDE TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY KICK IN THESE NEW REQUIREMENTS, BUT.

OKAY, MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHEN STAFF WAS DOING THEIR RESEARCH, IT TALKS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES ON SOUNDPROOFING THE INTERIOR WALLS AND OBVIOUSLY A DOG'S BARK.

WE'VE ALL HEARD IT CAN BE QUITE LOUD, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN AN INTERIOR SPACE AND THINKING OF HEALTH, SAFETY, WELLNESS OF NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE, BUT THE DOGS THAT ARE THERE, TOO.

DID STAFF FIND ANY RECOMMENDATION AS THE LEVEL OF SOUNDPROOFING OR THE TYPE OF SOUNDPROOFING AS SOUNDPROOFING CAN MEAN A MILLION THINGS TO A MILLION PEOPLE? WE DIDN'T RESEARCH DETAILED INFORMATION ON SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT SOUNDPROOFING.

WE LEAN IN ON BUILDING OFFICIAL [INAUDIBLE].

CAN YOU ADDRESS SOUNDPROOFING PLANS AND TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'VE DONE IT AT THE CURRENT LOCATION? SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, OUR JOB IS TO KEEP THE DOGS CALM AND QUIET FOR OURSELVES, FOR THE COMMUNITY. I MEAN, NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO WORK IN AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE DOGS ARE BARKING ALL THE TIME.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY.

THE DOGS AREN'T GOING TO BE HAPPY.

CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY IF THAT'S HAPPENING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT SOUNDPROOFING, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE FOUR WALLS TO THE BUILDING,

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SO THE SOUND IS NOT TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

I DON'T HAVE ANY SOUNDPROOFING IN PLACE IN MY CURRENT FACILITY.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.

WE KEEP IT CALM AND QUIET.

THAT'S OUR JOB.

WE'RE NOT A SHELTER.

WE'RE NOT A PLACE FOR TRAINING DOGS.

WE'RE THERE TO KEEP THE DOGS HAPPY, SAFE, AND THEREFORE THE CARE [INAUDIBLE].

WE WILL ELIMINATE DOGS IF THEY'RE YOU KNOW, IF A DOG IS BARKING NONSTOP, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY THERE.

IF IT'S NOT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE TELL THE OWNERS, THAT THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT FIT, AND IT HAPPENS FROM TIME TO TIME BESIDES OTHER MANY BEHAVIORS, BUT WE'RE THERE FOR THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE DOGS AND NOT FOR DOGS TO BE BARKING.

DOGS ARE ALWAYS BEING ATTENDED BY STAFF.

THEY'RE NEVER LEFT ALONE.

THEY'RE NEVER WE DON'T HAVE DOGS IN CRATES OR OR KENNELS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

THEY'RE IN THEIR OWN SPACE OR THEY'RE IN THE SOCIAL SPACES WITH ALL THE OTHER DOGS AND MANY PEOPLE.

WE ONLY BOARD SIX DOGS OVERNIGHT, AND ALL OF THOSE DOGS HAVE TO MEET SO MANY REQUIREMENTS BEFORE WE'D EVEN ALLOW THEM TO BOARD WITH US.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TAKE DOGS THAT HAVE ANXIETY ISSUES OR, YOU KNOW, DAYCARE IS FOR A HAPPY PLACE FOR THEM TO COME.

WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT THEY LOAD IN AS MANY DOGS AS THEY CAN.

YOU KNOW, A DOG'S ACTING UP, OH, JUST STICK THEM IN A CRATE OR WHATEVER.

THAT'S NOT OUR PHILOSOPHY.

WE'RE NOT DOING IT FOR THAT.

WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE DOGS AND THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO BE SOCIAL AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THERE FOR.

THANK YOU, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE THE APPLICANT.

I AM. I AM THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS.

YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

[INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SIT OR SHOULD I JUST HANG OUT UP HERE AS WELL? OH, TELL ME ABOUT THE WASTE ISSUE.

SO THE WASTE, ALL OF THE WASTE IS PICKED UP AND PUT INTO DOG POOP BAGS.

WE USE COMPOSTABLE DOG POOP BAGS.

ALL OF THAT GOES INTO A LARGER BUCKET THAT IS IN A COMPOSTABLE BAG, AND THAT COMPOSTABLE BAG GOES INTO THE GARBAGE AT NIGHT, ALL URINE AND LEFTOVER, YOU KNOW, SPOTS ARE CLEANED UP WITH.

WE USE A BIODEGRADABLE, NONTOXIC SOLUTION THAT CAN BE PURCHASED AT HOME DEPOT CALLED ODOBAN, AND IT'S PET FRIENDLY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR ALL OUR CLEANING.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 13 YEARS NOW AND HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CUSTOMERS, AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE A DISRUPTION TO THE COMMUNITY OR A NUISANCE IN ANY WAY.

WE'RE HERE FOR THE DOGS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM.

IS YOUR THIRD LOCATION IN ANY TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL AREA? SO IT'S THE EXACT SAME SETUP AS THIS BUILDING WOULD BE.

SO I'M ON MARSHALL STREET IN NORTHEAST, RIGHT BY PSYCHO SUSIE'S.

I'M ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE RIVER AS PSYCHO SUSIE'S.

MY DOG, OUTDOOR AREA IS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE DOG PLAY AREAS ARE OUTSIDE PLAYER IS AND THEN THERE'S THE BUILDING AND THEN THERE'S MARSHALL STREET AND THEN THERE'S RESIDENTS RIGHT THERE.

CAN YOU TALK TO TRAFFIC? BECAUSE I KNOW MARSHALL'S A LOT BUSIER THAN THIRD STREET, AND WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES? YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE 80 CARS IN AND OUT OF MY PARKING LOT A DAY.

CURRENTLY I ONLY HAVE FIVE SPOTS IN MY PARKING LOT AND IT RARELY IS FULL.

PEOPLE COME IN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE THERE FOR 30 SECONDS, YOU KNOW, HERE YOU GO.

WE KNOW THEIR DOG. HAVE A NICE DAY.

THEY'RE GONE. THEY PICK UP AT THE END OF THE NIGHT AND SAME PROCESS, BUT LESS THAN A MINUTE OR TWO.

SO WE WILL HAVE ALMOST DOUBLE THE PARKING SPOT, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THERE, AND, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE END OF A DEAD END STREET, BASICALLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WON'T BE MUCH DISTURBANCE TO THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE WAY.

THANK YOU. DOES THIS NEW FACILITY ALLOW FOR A LARGER NUMBER OF DOGS? SLIGHTLY. JUST A FEW MORE.

YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU ASSUMING YOUR BUSINESS HOURS WILL BE FOR DROP OFF AND PICK UP? 6:30 A.M. TO 8 P.M.

MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN 9 TO 5 ON THE WEEKENDS.

SAME AS OUR CURRENT.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AT THIS MOMENT, THEN I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

WE DO HAVE THE THREE LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVED, THE ONE IN THE PACKET AND THE TWO THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON ZOOM AT ALL? SO IT'S JUST PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN THE ROOM? OKAY, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND TALK ON THIS MATTER, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

SHOULD I SIT DOWN? PLEASE.

YEAH, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JEFF [INAUDIBLE].

I LIVE HERE IN THE CITY AT 3741 2.5 ST.

IT'S WITHIN THE ZONED AREA OF 350 FEET OF THE LOCATION.

BEFORE I BEGIN, THERE'S A PROCEDURAL MATTER.

IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY RUFF LOVE DOGS LLC.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S NOT A VALID BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

THEY HAVE BEEN INACTIVE ADMINISTRATIVELY SINCE 2015.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE APPLICATION CAN LEGALLY BE MADE AND IT MAY HAVE TO BE STARTED OVER FROM SCRATCH.

A BUSINESS HAS TO BE PROPERLY REGISTERED IN THE STATE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THE STATE.

IT IS NOT.

IT ALSO RAISES A QUESTION IF THEY CANNOT FOLLOW THE SIMPLE RULE OF STAYING REGISTERED WHERE THEY CAN FOLLOW ANY OF THE RULES OF THIS COUNCIL, AND RAISES A SERIOUS QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD EVEN BE LISTENING TO THE REST OF THE PROCEEDING OR THEIR APPLICATION.

THAT SAID, I DO HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THEM PUTTING IN THEIR BUSINESS.

FIRST OF ALL, IN REVIEWING THE INFORMATION FROM THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE A ZONING DESIGNATION, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT A FEW FACTORS AND MAKE SPECIFIC LEGAL FACTUAL FINDINGS REGARDING PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS AND GENERAL WELFARE.

I'LL CONCEDE THERE'S PROBABLY NO MORAL ISSUES WITH HAVING DOGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S PROBABLY FINE, BUT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE, THEY'RE SERIOUS CONCERNS.

I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE MINIMUM AVERAGE DECIBEL VOLUME OF A KENNEL, AND ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITES THAT I WENT TO CEDS.ORG, I BELIEVE IT IS, THEY BELIEVE THE MINIMAL DECIBEL LEVEL IS 100DB, DAYTIME 100DB, 100 DECIBEL LEVEL IS LOUDER THAN A MOTORCYCLE AND JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER A CHAINSAW BECAUSE OF THIS.

THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM ANY RESIDENCE IS 400 FEET.

IN ORDER TO PUT IN A KENNEL, THE MINIMUM RECOMMENDED DISTANCE IS 400 FEET.

THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION MIGHT BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT IF I JUST STEP THIS FAR AWAY, WE ARE NOW INTO RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE'VE GOT IS WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE OF GENERAL WELFARE.

WHEN YOU ADD IN INCREASED SOUND VOLUME, REALTORS WILL TELL YOU THAT DECREASES PROPERTY VALUES, AND THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL IN TERMS OF SAFETY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR STREET.

IT IS A ZERO TRAFFIC STREET.

YOU COULD PROBABLY TAKE A NAP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND NO ONE'S EVER GOING TO HIT YOU.

THERE IS JUST NO TRAFFIC.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR PEOPLE USING THE STREET? KIDS, THEY'RE OUT THERE PLAYING BALL.

THEY'RE PLAYING CATCH. THEY'RE RIDING THEIR BICYCLE.

YOU HAVE ADULTS GOING FOR WALKS, GOING FOR STROLLS.

YOU HAVE A FEW PEOPLE GOING TO AND FROM WORK, BUT THAT'S HOW MANY HOUSES ARE THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THAT BY A MINIMUM OF 80 CARS EVERY MORNING WHEN KIDS ARE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL GETTING DROPPED OFF AT THE BUS, ETC.

, AND 80 PEOPLE AT NIGHT WHEN KIDS ARE GETTING OFF THE SCHOOL BUSSES AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET HOME FROM WORK.

THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

THE INCREASED TRAFFIC ALONE WOULD BE ENOUGH TO DENY THIS RECOMMENDED VARIANCE THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED.

WHAT ABOUT WASTE? THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 100 DOGS CREATING WASTE AND PUTTING IT INTO OUTDOOR BINS.

THAT'S A REAL STENCH IN THE AREA.

RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE AT, WE HAVE A BLACK FLY PROBLEM ANYWAY.

THIS IS JUST GOING TO INCREASE IT.

THESE ARE ALL FACTUAL CONCERNS THAT YOU CAN USE TO DENY THIS.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING HAS BEEN SHOWN THAT ADDRESSES ANY OF THE ISSUES INDICATED BY THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER FOR CHANGING THE ZONING IN THAT AREA.

THE DOG KENNEL WOULD BE A 24 HOUR OPERATION.

THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE DOGS OVERNIGHT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE OVERNIGHT TRAFFIC, OVERNIGHT BARKING.

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PEOPLE WORK IN THE AREA, PEOPLE HAVE TO SLEEP, PEOPLE HAVE TO GET READY FOR SCHOOL.

TO HAVE THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY IN OUR AREA IS JUST NOT FAIR TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUILT THEIR LIVES AND HOMES IN THE AREA AND ARE TRYING TO RAISE FAMILIES.

THE NOISE EXCESS OF 55, AS I MENTIONED, A NOISE IN EXCESS OF 55 WOULD REDUCE PROPERTY VALUES.

SAFETY ISSUES, THIS AREA DOES NOT HAVE ANY STOP OR YIELD SIGNS.

THERE IS NO STOP SIGNS IN THE AREA.

PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO WHIP ALONG.

YOU'VE GOT ONE TURN.

IF WE HAD THAT PICTURE UP AGAIN WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 80 CARS GOING IN AND OUT OF BASICALLY A DEAD END STREET.

THAT'S NOT MUCH LONGER THAN THIS ROOM.

WHERE ARE THESE 80 CARS GOING TO BE COMING AND GOING EVERY DAY? THERE'S NOT. WHAT'S THAT? ONE AT A TIME OR 80 AT A TIME? WELL, HE'S GOT 80 FOR DROP OFF AND 80 FOR PICKUP.

I DON'T FOLLOW THE, BECAUSE THERE IS A STOP SIGN ON 38.

THERE'S NOT A STOP SIGN BY OUR HOUSE AT ALL.

I CAME RIGHT ONTO THIRD STREET FROM 38TH.

THERE'S A STOP SIGN. NO, WE JUST WERE THERE.

I LIVE AT 3716 2.5 ST.

I TAKE THAT RIGHT HAND TURN.

IT'S BEEN GONE FOR YEARS.

THERE'S NO STOP SIGN THERE.

NO. THERE WAS STOP SIGN THERE, IF THAT'S MISSING.

THAT'S BEEN YEARS THAT THAT'S BEEN GONE.

YEARS AND YEARS.

WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN.

SO ON 38TH, WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN 38 STRAIGHT INTO WHAT WOULD BE THEIR PARKING LOT.

THERE USED TO BE A STOP SIGN.

YEAH, IT'S GONE.

I STILL STOP. [CHUCKLING] I'VE BEEN THERE 22 YEARS.

I GUESS I DON'T EVEN LOOK.

YEAH, NO, WELL, I MEAN, YOU STOP THERE.

IT'S NORMAL BECAUSE THERE'S KIDS RUNNING AROUND.

THE POINT IS, I DON'T THINK THIS AREA CAN SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC.

THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT, AND THAT'S.

YOU'VE GOT TO COME OFF OF 37TH, GO UP SECOND, AND THEN TAKE A RIGHT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN REVERSE.

THERE'S JUST NOWHERE TO GO.

THERE'S NO ALTERNATE ROUTES.

I GUESS YOU CAN GO DOWN BY THE PINK PARK OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THAT LITTLE WEDGE PIECE DOWN THERE AND HIT ALL THOSE KIDS DOWN THERE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR AREA.

I JUST THINK FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, THE KIDS ALONE ARE A REAL PROBLEM AND THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO OVERCOME THAT ISSUE IN TERMS OF THAT'S THE KIDS, THE ODORS OF THE DOG.

WE HAVE THE ODOR ISSUE.

THERE'S AN OUTDOOR RUN.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF DOGS OUTSIDE THAT CAN ADD ADDITIONAL ODOR.

I DON'T CARE HOW FAST THEY'RE PICKING IT UP, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DOG POOP OUTSIDE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

LET'S SEE THE APPROACH.

SO IN TERMS OF THE VARIANCE FOR EXCUSE ME, IN TERMS OF MODIFYING THE ZONING, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FACTS TO SUPPORT IT.

IT MIGHT BE A RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF HAS TO BE SUPPORTED BY THINGS THAT ARE SUPPORTABLE UNDER MINNESOTA LAW, AND I THINK ANY CHALLENGE TO IT WOULD CERTAINLY DEFEAT ANY SUCH CHANGE.

IN TERMS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE PROBLEM WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS THAT YOU CAN'T CREATE THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE ASKING TO GET PERMITTED.

THERE'S A CASE I FORGOT TO WRITE DOWN THE NAME OF IT.

THE FAMILY BUILT THEIR PORCH OUT TOWARDS THE LAKE AND THEY WENT TOO FAR TOWARDS THE LAKE , AND SO AS A RESULT, IT WENT UP TO THE SUPREME COURT AND THEY SAID, YOU CREATED THE PROBLEM. THIS WAS WHAT THE RULES WERE.

SO ABSENT THE ZONING CHANGE, THEY CAN'T ASK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO DO SOMETHING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ALREADY THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING.

THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL USE VARIANCE GRANTED ON A KENNEL BECAUSE I DID RESEARCH IT UP IN COOK COUNTY, BUT THAT LADY IS WAY AWAY FROM OTHER RESIDENCES.

SHE'S MORE THAN 400 FEET AWAY, AND SO THERE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PERMITTED.

SO I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST THREE DIFFERENT THINGS HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT.

NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE A COMPANY THAT HAS THE INABILITY TO FOLLOW STATE LAW.

THIS COMPANY, I DON'T THINK THAT THEIR APPLICATION IS EVEN VALID, AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY NEEDS TO WRITE AN OPINION ON IS WHETHER A NON ACTIVE COMPANY CAN EVEN APPLY IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND REREGISTER THEIR BUSINESS WITH THE STATE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO START THE APPLICATION FROM SCRATCH AND GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN SO THAT WE WOULD COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT THIS IS A SAFETY MATTER THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADDRESSED.

I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN SAY THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH MATTER THAT HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADDRESSED.

AS I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS IN THE AREA.

YOU HAVE ONE DOG GET LOOSE, GOES CRAZY AND BITES SOMEBODY, YOU'VE GOT A REAL LIABILITY ISSUE.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS TO CONTROL DOGS IF THEY GET LOOSE FROM ANY OF THE TRAINERS .

IN TERMS OF GENERAL WELFARE, THIS WILL DECREASE PROPERTY VALUES.

THERE'S NOT A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

YOU HAVE AN INCREASED NOISE ISSUE.

THE ANSWER WAS, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INDOOR PADDING WILL BE TO HELP ABATE THE NOISE.

WELL, AREN'T THERE GOING TO BE WINDOWS FOR FRESH AIR? AREN'T THE DOGS GOING TO BE GOING OUTSIDE? THIS IS REALLY A PROBLEMATIC ISSUE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SUPPORTED BY MINNESOTA LAW AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE FACTS ARE HERE TO HELP SUPPORT THE BREAKDOWN THAT YOU NEED TO GET PAST THOSE BARRIERS.

IN TERMS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE, TO SUMMARIZE, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS BEING MANUFACTURED AND NOT ONE THAT THE CITY SHOULD TAKE OVER.

DON'T FORGET, THIS DECISION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, BY THE WAY, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALL THE OTHER ZONES AND THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALL THE OTHER LT ZONES THAT BORDER PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST US.

I THINK IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE.

IN ANY EVENT, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. OKAY, YEAH, DO YOU WANT TO START BY JUST ADDRESSING SOME OF THE COMMENTS? I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE GOT THEM ALL CLASSIFIED, BUT YOU GUYS CAN CERTAINLY REMIND ME, BUT LET'S START WITH PROCESS.

SO STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT THERE'S NOT A PROCESS ERROR.

WE ALSO CAN'T CONFIRM REGISTRATION STATUS.

CITY CLERK DID LOOK IT UP WHILE THAT CONVERSATION WAS TAKING PLACE AND DID FIND IT AS A REGISTERED BUSINESS.

YEAH, HE SAID IT DIFFERENTLY THAN [INAUDIBLE], AND I DON'T KNOW WITHOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE WHETHER THAT THEY CAN MAKE APPLICATION.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, EVEN IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE IS, BUT WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT AMENDMENT TO ZONING THAT WOULD TRANSCEND JUST THIS BUSINESS ALONE.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES APPLY TO THAT BUSINESS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A PROCESS HERE THAT KICKS THIS OUT.

SO LET'S START THERE.

THE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT HE'S REFERENCING TO THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES ARE LISTED IN YOUR REPORT.

THE FINDINGS RELATED TO SAFETY, WELFARE AND ALL THOSE CONDITIONS THAT LEGALLY WE HAVE TO HAVE AND MAKE.

WE COULD GO THROUGH THEM IF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE, BUT THE LEGAL FINDINGS OPINIONS ARE FULLY ARTICULATED IN THE REPORT.

SO PROCEDURAL PROCESS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE.

BEYOND THAT, THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD.

SO THE FINAL DECISION ISN'T HERE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT AWARE FOR CERTAINLY THE AUDIENCE AND THE COMMISSION, BUT BOTH OF THESE LAND USE APPLICATIONS GET FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ULTIMATE APPROVAL.

SO THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION.

COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK, I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY A 400 FOOT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE LEAGUE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN STAFF RESEARCH.

SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I THINK MOST ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO THEM WITHOUT HAVING THE ZONING MAP UP.

IF A DAYCARE FOR DOGS IS A FACILITY THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO OUR CITY, THESE ARE THE CLASSIFICATION OF PROPERTIES THAT STAFF BELIEVE ARE BEST SUITED.

THERE'S BEEN AN EFFORT THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING ON THIS TO ISOLATE OUTDOOR DOG ACTIVITY, TO BUTT UP AGAINST A HIGHWAY.

THE AMBIENT HIGHWAY NOISE IS GOING TO DROWN OUT OUTDOOR ACTIVITY IN PLAY IF THERE IS A LEGITIMATE NUISANCE CONCERN.

THE NUISANCE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, BUTTRESSES IF IT'S JUST BARKING DOGS CONTINUOUSLY ALL THE TIME.

THERE IS ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT CAN BE TAKEN BY THE CITY.

I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, IT IS WHETHER IT SEEMS QUIET RIGHT NOW, IT IS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE STRIP.

THERE'S MUCH HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

THE UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS THERE IS ALWAYS THAT BUFFER ZONE FOR ALL OF OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONES WHERE YOU HAVE, IN THIS CASE, ALL TYPES OF HOUSING BUTTING UP AGAINST INDUSTRIAL.

WE ALLOW IT IN COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.

CURRENTLY, A LOT OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, AGAIN, ARE GOING TO BE UP AGAINST IN [INAUDIBLE] HOUSING.

IT'S UNAVOIDABLE, AND I THINK THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS CRAFTED IN A WAY THAT IS PROTECTING AGAINST THESE NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS AND THAT IT CAN COEXIST, AND THERE ARE GUARDRAILS WE'VE INCREASED THE GUARDRAILS SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ACTIVITY FAR BEYOND WHAT THEY WERE

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PREVIOUSLY. SO I THINK, GENERALLY SPEAKING, OUR FINDINGS FOLLOW THAT SAME CONCLUSION THA T IT IS IN HARMONY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT THE AMENDMENT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

ANY MORE SPECIFICS THAT THE GENTLEMAN DISCUSSED I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THOSE.

BACK TO THE ORDINANCE.

IF THE ORDINANCE PASSES, YOU STILL HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A KENNEL, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WE TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN ON BOTH, BUT THE SEQUENCE WOULD BE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR TWO READINGS.

IT GETS TWO STOPS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR EXCUSE ME, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AND AFTER THAT, ON THE SAME NIGHT OF THE SECOND READING.

IT'S TYPICAL TO INTRODUCE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT THAT SECOND COUNCIL MEETING FROM THERE FORWARD.

IF THAT ALL WAS APPROVED, A SUBSEQUENT DOG DAYCARE FACILITY WOULD JUST GO THROUGH JUST THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS TOO, WAS OVERNIGHT TRAFFIC OR OVERNIGHT KENNELING, AND IF THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS OVERNIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE DOGS ARE BEING TAKEN OUT DURING THE NIGHT OR I WOULD REFER TO JUSTIN.

SO, JUSTIN, IF YOU COULD JOIN ME, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SIX DOGS IS AN AVERAGE OVER [INAUDIBLE] SUITES FROM ABOUT 8:30 AT NIGHT UNTIL ABOUT 6:15 IN THE MORNING WHEN STAFF START TO ARRIVE.

NO STAFF AT NIGHT? NO STAFF OVERNIGHT AND DOGS.

I ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE HAVE A VETTING PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DOGS THAT DO STAY OVERNIGHT ARE IN GOOD HEALTH AND WELL BEING.

WE HAVE CAMERAS, OF COURSE, AND MOTION DETECTORS IF THERE WERE ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED.

THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE SET UP AT THIS PLACE.

OH, OF COURSE. THAT IS ALL--WE'D PAY SOMEBODY TO DO IT, OF COURSE.

TRAFFIC WISE, YOU'RE NOT HAVING EVERYONE'S NOT COMING ALL AT ONCE TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF.

IT'S KIND OF STAGGERED [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN ABOUT THAT 6:30 A.M.

WHEN WE OPEN AND 10:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, THEY FLOW IN AND THEN OUT ANYWHERE FROM 2:00 TILL 5:30/6:00 IS PRETTY MUCH THE END OF THE BUSIER PART, AND THEN THERE'S 10 TO 15 DOGS THAT TRICKLE OUT FROM 6:00/6:30 TO 8:00 AT NIGHT. THANK YOU BOTH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ARE THERE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? COME ON UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ANTHONY COURTRIGHT.

I LIVE AT 3948 HAYES, HERE IN COLUMBIA HEIGHTS, CURRENT RESIDENCE, AND OUR DOGS ARE REGULAR DAY CARE ATTENDEES AT RUFF LOVE DOGS. FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, WE HAVE WATCHED AS OUR BELOVED FAMILY DOGS HAVE LOVED GOING TO DOGGIE DAY CARE TO SEE JESS AND THE RUFF LOVE STAFF, THE WELL TRAINED AND COURTEOUS STAFF TAKE CARE OF THE DOGS LIKE THE'RE MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN FAMILY.

THEY RUN AN EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAN BUSINESS BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE IN THEIR DOG RUNS.

RUFF LOVE HAS, AS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, HAS A VERY STRINGENT SCREENING PROCESS FOR THE DOGS THAT ARE WELCOMED INTO THEIR PACK, AND THE STAFF IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL OF THEIR PACK AT ALL TIMES.

ALL DOGS ARE REQUIRED TO BE UP TO DATE ON ALL OF THEIR VACCINATIONS TO EVEN ATTEND DOGGIE DAY CARE.

RUFF LOVE IS ALSO, AS WE'VE HEARD, CURRENTLY LOCATED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONTAINS BOTH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, LIKE THE PROPOSED NEW LOCATION.

SO IT'S NOTHING NEW FOR THEM AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A COURTEOUS MEMBER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CUSTOMERS OF [INAUDIBLE], WE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AND BELIEVE THAT RUFF LOVE WOULD BE A WELCOME ADDITION TO THE COLUMBIA HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE]. THE BETTER HALF OF THE GENTLEMEN WHO SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT SOME OF THE LEGAL STUFF.

I'M GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE PERSONAL STUFF.

WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS A RESIDENT OF THIS AREA IS HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ME AND HOW I ENJOY MY HOME.

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I SPEND AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME IN A LOVELY BACKYARD, AND I'D BE HONEST, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE ODOR THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM THE KENNEL.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO GREATLY DIMINISH HOW I ENJOY MY PROPERTY, MY NEIGHBORS ENJOY THEIR PROPERTIES AND JUST WANT TO PUT A HUMAN FACE ON THAT.

THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED BY THIS, AND I GUESS THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD IS A DECREASE IN HOME VALUE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS.

LOVE WHERE I LIVE.

I WANT TO STAY THERE, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD REALLY IMPACT WHETHER I CONTINUE TO STAY HERE OR NOT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.

SO THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MATTER? WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION FOR THIS TOPIC AND WOULD INVITE COMMISSIONERS TO OPEN DISCUSSION. IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT OR ASK, OR WE CAN MOVE INTO THE MOTIONS.

I WOULD YOU SAY, AS A PERSON WHO LIVED IN [INAUDIBLE] FOR NINE YEARS, THERE IS NOISE ALREADY.

THERE'S A BUS ROUTE THAT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THAT AREA.

THERE'S THE TRAIN HERE THAT YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE ANYMORE, THOSE THINGS, AND THEN YOU HAVE UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS A VERY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED STREET.

SO I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL OF WHERE THEY PUT THE OUTDOOR PORTION OF THE DOG RUN [INAUDIBLE] THAT HIGH TRAFFIC STREET THAT'S GOING TO BUFFER THAT NOISE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF NEGLIGIBLE, AND IF IT DOES BECOME A PROBLEM, THAT NUISANCE ORDINANCE IS THERE TO PROTECT [INAUDIBLE].

I'LL JUST ADD FROM A COMP PLAN PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY ZEROED IN ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL LOCATION AND A RELATIVELY TRANSITIONAL USE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS TYPE OF USE SEEMS ESPECIALLY WELL-SUITED TO THE IDEA OF A TRANSITIONAL AREA, AND I THINK IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO AMEND OUR ZONING TO ALLOW THIS KIND OF USE IN THESE TYPE OF LOCATIONS, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY UNDERSCORED BY HOW ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CITY WENT IN BOLSTERING, YOU KNOW, THE MECHANISMS THAT ARE ABLE TO DEAL WITH NEIGHBORHOOD PROBLEMS IF THEY DO ARISE FROM THIS BUILDING OR FROM SIMILAR SIMILAR USES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

SO TO ME, THIS SEEMS LIKE THE CITY DID A REALLY EXCEPTIONAL JOB ON, YOU KNOW, CREATING THAT FRAMEWORK IF SOME SORT OF ISSUE DOES ARISE IN THE FUTURE.

I'D LOOK TO CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER KAISER AND SUGGEST THAT THE PROPOSED RUFF LOVE IS IN LINE WITH THE 2040 PLAN AND IN LINE WITH THE DATE OR THE DREAMED 2040 PLAN AREA FOR THAT TO BECOME BUSINESS, PARKS AND STUFF BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL, WE HAVE AN AUTO MOTOR PLACE AND THEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY STORING SHINGLES AND ASPHALT AND TRAILERS. SO THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS IS MORE IN LINE WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAN THE TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT PROPERTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I CAN SEE WHERE THERE IS MAJOR CONCERN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S THE CITY'S PLAN 2040 AND ALL THIS STUFF IS CONFORMING WITH THAT PLAN, AND REALLY THERE'S IT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER FROM THAT STANDPOINT OTHER THAN THE PERSONAL EMOTIONAL ISSUES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION WITHIN THE COMMISSION? OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MOTIONS HERE TO GO THROUGH.

I'LL MOVE TO WAIVE THE READING OF DRAFT ORDINANCE NUMBER 1682.

THERE BEING AMPLE COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SECOND.

IS THIS A VOICE VOTE OR IS THIS ROLL CALL? VOICE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? I'LL MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED DRAFT ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 1682 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

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I'LL MOVE TO WAIVE THE READING OF DRAFT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-9, THERE BEING AMPLE COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE ON A ROLL.

OKAY, MIGHT AS WELL.

I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT DRAFT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023-9 BEING A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ROUGH LOVE LLC FOR THE PROPOSED ANIMAL KENNEL DOG DAYCARE AND BOARDING FACILITY, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION.

SECOND. ALL OPPOSED.

ALL IN FAVOR. EXCUSE ME.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS HERE.

THE FIRST ONE IS REVIEWING THE PURCHASE OF 841 49TH AVENUE NORTHEAST.

JUST TRYING TO CUE UP A FEW SLIDES.

SORRY. NEVER MIND. I HAD A FEW LOCATIONS--WE COULD TRY.

I HAD A COUPLE LOCATION MAPS AND A POWERPOINT.

I THOUGHT WE WERE USING BOB'S POWERPOINT THIS EVENING, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THESE LOCATIONS PRETTY EASILY, I THINK, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO FIRST OF ALL, WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING ADDRESSED THIS EVENING ARE TWO POTENTIAL ACQUISITIONS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BY THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, AND SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT REMEMBER WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT AS PART OF STATE STATUTE, WE HAVE TO CHECK IN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT ACQUISITION IS CONFORMING TO THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN ON THE BACK END, WHEN WE DISPOSE OF PROPERTIES, IT'S THE SAME JOURNEY. SO WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF ACQUIRING A COUPLE OF STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS.

THE EDA DID ACTUALLY REVIEW ONE OF THESE YESTERDAY EVENING AND IS SUPPORT OF THE FIRST ONE.

841 49TH AVENUE NORTHEAST.

IT'S A HOUSE THAT'S LOCATED BEHIND TACO BELL.

PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO [INAUDIBLE] BY CHANCE.

SORRY, IT'S EITHER THE GYM OR THE HALLWAY, RIGHT? [CHUCKLING] SO WE HOPE TO NOT HAVE GYM NOISES AT THE NEW CITY HALL.

SO BEHIND TACO BELL, THERE'S A HOUSE THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THE OCCUPANT HAD MOVED OUT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO TRACK DOWN A FAMILY MEMBER RECENTLY AND GET A DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION ON THE ACQUISITION OF THAT PROPERTY AND THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD STRATEGIC ACQUISITION FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL USE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE TACO BELL SITE, BUT ALSO IT'S ZONED AND SIZED CORRECTLY WHERE IT COULD WITHSTAND A TWIN HOME, YOU KNOW, TWO TOWNHOMES ON THAT LOCATION, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IT REALLY IS A GOOD ACQUISITION FOR DEMOLITION AND TO HOLD THAT LAND FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE CITY.

SO ONE OF THE SPECIFIC GOALS CITED IN YOUR REPORT IS IN CHAPTER THREE, THE LAND USE SECTION.

ONE OF THE GOALS WITHIN THAT SECTION IS TO PROVIDE MECHANISMS FOR SUCCESSFUL REDEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LANDS AND TARGETED AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE CENTRAL AVENUE CORRIDOR, WHICH WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS PART OF, IS CERTAINLY A STRATEGIC ACQUISITION AREA FOR THE CITY AND SPECIFICALLY ENHANCING THE IMAGE AND VITALITY OF THE CENTRAL AVENUE CORRIDOR, PROTECTING AND ENHANCING ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ENCOURAGING REDEVELOPMENT ALONG THE NORTHERN CORRIDOR OF CENTRAL AVENUE AT 49TH UP TO THE CITY LIMITS.

SO THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE PROVISIONS, BUT REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS NATURE IS SUPPORTED UP AND DOWN THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.

WHAT'S THE TIMING AFTER PURCHASE OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SITE OR WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SITE AND WHAT'S THE TIMING? RIGHT, OKAY, SO THE FIRST STEPS WILL BE REMEDIATION OF ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.

THE HOUSE IS FULL OF A LOT OF PERSONAL BELONGINGS.

CLEAR ALL THAT OUT DEMO THIS SPRING AS SOON AS THE GROUND THAWS AND REESTABLISH TURF AND WAIT, THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE PLANS. SO KIND OF HOW WE PRESENTED IT TO THE EDA LAST NIGHT WAS LET'S NOT BE IN A RUSH.

LET'S JUST GET THIS NUISANCE PROPERTY CLEARED AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST USE IS.

THERE WAS DIFFERING OPINIONS ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO I THINK WE'LL REMOVE THE BLIGHT AND THEN AND WAIT.

THIS SHOWS US RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, R-2-A.

YEAH. I DRIVE PAST THAT PROPERTY ALMOST EVERY DAY, AND IT IS RIPE FOR A GREAT REDEVELOPMENT.

YEAH, THE NICEST WAY YOU COULD PUT IT.

[CHUCKLING] RIPE IS ACCURATE IN MORE THAN ONE WAY.

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THE BASEMENT FLOODED.

THE WATER WAS WITHIN A FEW INCHES OF THE FIRST FLOOR CEILING AND IT'S YEAH IT WAS JUST A BLESSING THAT THE FAMILY MEMBERS WALKED INTO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR STAFF HAD TRIED TO TRACK DOWN OWNERSHIP ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.

IT WAS DEEMED UNINHABITABLE, BOARDED UP BY THE CITY, ABATED LONG GRASS AND THINGS FOR YEARS, AND THEY WERE PAYING TAXES, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WASN'T ANYBODY CHASING THEM ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, AND HERE WE ARE.

SO IT'S A GOOD GOOD TO MOVE ON.

SO, YEAH, ARE THEY BOTH CONNECTED HERE? THE PROPERTIES? NO, WE'VE GOT TWO RESOLUTIONS, TWO VERY SEPARATE OBJECTIVES AND INITIATIVES WITH THESE STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

SO THE FIRST SET OF MOTIONS IS ON PAGE 50.

[OTHER BUSINESS]

I WILL MOVE TO WAIVE THE READING OF RESOLUTION 2023-PZ01.

I CAN'T? I'LL MOVE TO WAIVE THE READING--I THOUGHT I HAD POWER [CHUCKLING]--OF RESOLUTION 2023-PZ01 ONE BEING AMPLE COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? I MEAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023-PZ01 RESOLUTION FINDING THAT THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN LAND FOR REDEVELOPMENT PURPOSES BY THE COLUMBIA HEIGHTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBIA HEIGHTS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.

WE'RE ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE IT SAYS SO.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL IN THE ECONOMIC--THE FINDINGS WERE I READ THEM AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT ENDS HERE.

THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVING THE AUTHORITY ON THIS.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS FUN.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW PURCHASE OF 4243 5TH STREET, NORTHEAST.

COMMISSIONERS, SO DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES HERE.

ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY ACQUISITION OF A BLIGHTED PROPERTY STAFF HAD AN EXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH REALTOR THAT HAS FACILITATED OTHER ACQUISITIONS FOR US THAT HAS A FAMILY FRIEND THAT'S READY TO SELL.

THE HOUSE, HAS AGED OUT AND ARE MOVING INTO AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

THIS HOUSE HAS SUFFERED FROM SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE CERTAINLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, BUT NOT IN A COMMERCIAL AREA.

I WISH I COULD BRING UP. OH, YOU HAVE THE MAP.

AWESOME. THANK YOU, ALICIA.

SO KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR CORE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE OFF OF FIFTH STREET AND ONE OF OUR CORE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT SMALL LOT, 40 FOOT WIDE, BUT STAFF ARE GOING TO PROPOSE THAT THE EDA ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY AT A MEETING COMING UP, BUT WE FIGURED WE MIGHT AS WELL ADDRESS IT WITH THE COMMISSION AND TALK ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONFORMANCE.

THE INTENT FOR THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE ACQUISITION FOR DEMOLITION.

REDEVELOPMENT FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE IS LIKELY AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

THE REBUILDING OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IS KIND OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE RUMINATING ON.

THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS THAT THE CITY HAS A SCATTERED SITE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN IDLE FOR MANY YEARS, THAT HAS SOME FUNDS SITTING IN IT THAT WE NEED TO UTILIZE IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT DISTRICT ALIVE, AND THERE ARE SOME INCOME RESTRICTIONS THAT GO WITH THE BACK END REDEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PARCELS AND THE HABITAT MODEL, WE THINK WOULD BE A GOOD FIT.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOME REALLY NICE NEW CONSTRUCTION FLOOR PLANS THAT THEY'RE DOING THESE DAYS, BUT AT ANY RATE, IF IT DIDN'T GO THAT WAY, WE COULD DO A MARKET RATE DEAL TOO.

WE DO NEED TO TAKE THAT THROUGH WITH THE EDA.

THE SAME COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DYNAMICS ARE AT PLAY HERE, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THAT FULL EXERCISE WITH THE EDA.

SO SPECIFICALLY IN CHAPTER THREE LAND USE AND CHAPTER FOUR WITHIN CHAPTER THREE, ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO STRENGTHEN THE IDENTITY AND IMAGE OF THE COMMUNITY AS A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY, AND WE DO THAT BY ENHANCING THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH CLEAN UP INITIATIVES, REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND HOUSING RENOVATION PROGRAMS. IN CHAPTER FOUR, IN HOUSING GOALS AND POLICIES, THERE'S A GOAL TO PRESERVE THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AS ONE OF THE COMMUNITY'S STRONGEST ASSETS.

A SUB-GOAL IS ENHANCING AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF APPEARANCE OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE HOUSING STOCK THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CLEANUP EFFORTS.

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IDENTIFY NEIGHBORHOOD REDEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT COULD SUPPORT NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, EVALUATE NEW AND HIGHER VALUED HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE MOVE UP HOUSING FOR EXISTING AND NEW RESIDENTS.

. LOTS OF HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SECTIONS WOULD CERTAINLY APPLY, BUT THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT STOOD OUT TO STAFF.

YOU'D DEMO THAT PLACE TOO? YEAH, DEMOLITION FOR REBUILD AGAIN.

WE HAVEN'T TAKEN IT THROUGH THE EDA EXERCISE, BUT THOSE ARE EITHER A SINGLE FAMILY MARKET RATE OR SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HABITAT ARE THE TWO KIND OF OPTIONS.

THE CITY HAS DONE BOTH IN THE PAST AND HAD A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE SCATTERED SITE TIF DISTRICT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THAT HAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALL OVER THE CITY THAT MAKE UP THAT COLLECTIVE DISTRICT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE POOLED FUNDS THAT ARE JUST KIND OF SITTING THERE.

HOW MUCH ARE THE FUNDS ROUGHLY? $385,000, CURRENTLY.

SO ENOUGH FOR A FEW PROJECTS ONCE DEMOLITION AND EVERYTHING IS ACCOUNTED FOR.

THE COOL THING IS IT'S A TIF DISTRICT THAT GENERATES REVENUE ANNUALLY, BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE AROUND FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX YEARS, AND ALL OF THOSE HOUSES THAT WERE REDEVELOPED UNDER THAT DISTRICT ARE CONTRIBUTING ABOUT $50,000 A YEAR.

THIS WOULD ADD TO IT A SMALL AMOUNT BECAUSE THE INCREMENT ON A SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT IS SMALL.

SO THE INCREMENT BEING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BASE VALUE TODAY AND THE IMPROVED VALUE THAT TAX DIFFERENTIAL IS WHAT WE CAN EXTRACT OFF THE TOP AND PUT IT INTO THIS REDEVELOPMENT FUND.

SO YEAH, SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FUND IN 5 TO 6 YEARS? SO WE DECERTIFY THE TIFF DISTRICT, DEAL WITH ANY FUND BALANCE THAT IS IN THE DISTRICT AT THE TIME AND DEPENDING ON A VARIETY OF STATUTES AND LAWS, AND WHEN THIS WAS CREATED AND THE PLAN THAT UNDERPINS THIS DISTRICT, WE DETERMINE WHAT, IF ANYTHING, WE CAN DO WITH ANY SURPLUS FUNDS. A LOT OF THE TIMES WE FIND A CREATIVE WAY TO USE IT, BUT IF WE USE IT FOR ACQUISITIONS LIKE THIS, WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY EXHAUST THAT POOL IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR I THINK ON PAGE 55 ARE THE MOTIONS FOR THIS ONE.

READY? DON'T LOOK AT ME. [CHUCKLING] YOU GOT YELLED AT LAST TIME.

[INAUDIBLE] RESOLUTION 2023-PZ02.

THERE BEING AMPLE COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023-PZ01, A RESOLUTION FINDING THAT THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN LAND FOR REDEVELOPMENT PURPOSES BY THE COLUMBIA HEIGHTS EDA IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBIA HEIGHTS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

A LOT. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS NICE AND THOROUGH AND THAT FIRST FIRST THING.

TO THAT POINT, I WANT TO THANK BOB KIRMIS FROM NAC.

JUST DID A TREMENDOUS JOB, I THINK, ON THE PREPARATION OF THAT CASE AND REPORT, AND JUST LIKE IF I'M GOING TO HAND A REPORT TO THE INCOMING PLANNER AS A MODEL OF WHAT WE WANT AND EXPECT, IT'S GOING TO BE THIS DRAFT, JUST A REALLY GOOD JOB.

SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING BOB AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS HIM.

WE TRIED WITH ALL OF OUR MIGHT TO GET HIM TO CONSIDER THAT OPEN POSITION, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH BOB.

SO YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MANY OTHER UPDATES.

YOU'RE PROBABLY WANTING TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE RAINBOW SITE [CHUCKLING].

JUST STEAL YOUR THUNDER.

WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE SO OUR DEVELOPER PARTNER [INAUDIBLE] EXPECTS THAT ONCE THE COUNCIL WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A VISIONING AND GOAL SETTING EXERCISE IN FEBRUARY, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND WE WANTED TO TOUCH DOWN WITH THAT COUNCIL AFTER THAT AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEIR INTENT AND THE DESIGN INTENT AND WHAT THEY'RE THINKING IS CONSISTENT WITH WHERE EVERYONE'S AT AND THEN REBOOT AND GET REVISED SITE PLANS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND START THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

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BROADLY SPEAKING, WE WANT TO HAVE ENTITLEMENTS AND LAND USE APPROVALS CONCLUDED THIS YEAR, CERTAINLY WITH AN EXPECTED PHASE ONE GROUNDBREAKING FOR NEXT SPRING. BEST CASE SCENARIO WOULD BE THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MUCH GOING ON THERE, AND THIS ONE WE SHOULD TAKE OUR TIME ON. SO IT'S VERY EXCITING.

THERE'S NO REAL MOMENTUM LOST.

THE GROCERY STORE THAT WAS GOING TO GO INTO THE SITE HAS BACKED OUT.

SO WE'VE PIVOTED FROM FROM THAT CONCEPT AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER OVERALL FOR THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE THE CONCESSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE TO BRING THAT GROCER IN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE US CONSIDERING GIVING UP A LOT OF OUR DESIGN PRINCIPLES THAT WE WEREN'T TOO EXCITED ABOUT, NOT BRINGING ALL THE BUILDINGS UP TO CENTRAL, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED TO DIVE INTO THAT AND STILL, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IN THE BIG PICTURE, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, CIVIC SPACE AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL, THAT'S ALL INTACT.

IT'S JUST WHAT'S THE NEW ARRANGEMENT AND TIMING.

THEY DO WANT TO BRING THE BUILDING DOWN IN JULY IS KIND OF THE PLAN.

THEY'RE TAKING DEMO BIDS AND PREPPING THE DOLLAR TREE'S LEASE ENDS AT THE END OF JUNE, SO THEY WANT TO GET IN THERE RIGHT AWAY AND BRING THAT DOWN AND THEN WE CAN.

ARE YOU GOING TO SWING THE FIRST AXE? I THINK THAT'LL BE AT THIS BUILDING [CHUCKLING].

I'LL BE SITTING ON THE SIDEWALK, DRINKS, WHATEVER YOU WANT, LET'S WATCH THEM TEAR IT DOWN.

I'LL TAILGATE THAT WITH YOU.

CALL ME.

I WILL. SUGGESTED THAT FOR WHEN THE BANK BUILDING CAME DOWN ON 40TH AND CENTRAL, THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RAFFLE [INAUDIBLE] BY THE TIME THAT CAME I WAS JUST OVER IT.

LIKE, THE WORK TO JUST GET TO THAT POINT AND THE STRESS OF YEAH, I WAS LIKE JUST, JUST TEAR IT DOWN.

NO SPECIAL CEREMONY.

ANOTHER BIG BIT OF NEWS, IF ANYBODY'S NOTICED THE MEDTRONIC SITE IS FOR SALE.

SO MEDTRONIC'S CONSOLIDATING AT THEIR FRIDLEY HEADQUARTERS RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT THAT, SO WE VIEW IT AS A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S 12 ACRES AND ANOTHER KIND OF AMAZING, EXCITING ENDEAVOR.

SO STAY TUNED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S LEADING THE NEGOTIATIONS ON THAT, BUT WE'VE TAKEN CALLS FROM A LOT OF THE BIG PLAYERS IN THE MARKET THAT ARE TAKING A LOOK AT IT.

SO IT COULD BE ANOTHER 12 ACRE MICRO CITY, YOU KNOW, SEEING WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE PRUDENTIAL SITE, IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT, OFF BASS LAKE ROAD AND 494 IN PLYMOUTH, THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING I MEAN, A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

YES, THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING PREVIEW OF THE KIND OF THINGS WE SEE THERE.

SAME THESIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH--CAN YOU SEND ME A TEXT OR LINK? IT'S IN PLYMOUTH. YEAH.

70 ACRES.

THAT'S A BIG THE DEVELOPER OF THAT SITE IS ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT OUR PROPERTY .

I SHOULD GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT IT. IT'S [INAUDIBLE].

[INAUDIBLE] PARTNERED WITH ANOTHER GROUP ON THAT 70 ACRE AND IT MIGHT BE CS, BUT [INAUDIBLE] JUST [INAUDIBLE] AS FAR AS I KNOW..

THE FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE OFFICE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO NOT JUST BE US.

SO TOYOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER KAISER, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE ALL ARE KIND OF SAD ABOUT THE LOSS OF MEDTRONIC, CERTAINLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S MEDTRONIC, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY SHIFT GEARS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, AND BUT IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CONVERSIONS AND REDEVELOPMENT OF STUFF THAT WE NEVER THOUGHT WOULD BE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

SUDDENLY, COLUMBIA HEIGHTS, HARDLY HAVING ANY OFFICE SPACE, IS REALLY GETTING IN VOGUE NOW.

YEAH, RIGHT.

[INAUDIBLE] MEDTRONIC SITE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THEIR TARGET FRIDLEY.

THAT OPEN GREEN AREA THERE.

YEAH THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE PARKING LOT BUT IT COULDN'T BE BROUGHT INTO MODERN PARKING LOT BECAUSE THERE WAS ASBESTOS FOOTINGS FROM PREVIOUS BUILDINGS THERE RATHER THAN DO THE PARKING LOT THERE, THEY HAD ENOUGH PARKING NUMBERED NUMBER OF PARKING STALLS THAT THEY WERE GOOD THE WAY THEY WANT.

YEAH, THAT AREA, THAT GREEN AREA IS JUST AN ASBESTOS BED.

SO IT'S NOT AN OUTLET FOR DEVELOPMENT.

[INAUDIBLE] WHEN THEY UPDATED [INAUDIBLE] THEY STAGED OVER THERE BY SULLIVAN LAKE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR POLLUTION CONTROL BUT YEAH I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS SOME SKELETONS IN THE CLOSET ON A 12 ACRE

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PROPERTY THAT SITE I THINK THE CITY OF FRIDLEY IS TRADING WITH FOR THE 53RD TURNABOUT THAT THEY'RE GIVING LAND IN LIEU OF CHARGING ASSESSMENTS TO TARGET.

THAT TURNABOUT THAT'S GOING IN THERE I THINK IS GOING TO CONSUME SOME OF THAT VACANT SPACE.

THAT AREA BEHIND THERE, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OIL CAN HENRY'S.

I'VE DONE FOUR OR FIVE SURVEYS BACK THERE FOR DIFFERENT BUSINESS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WOODS? YEAH, RIGHT BACK THERE.

THERE'S OIL BACK THERE.

NO, THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS? OIL CAN HENRY'S IS [INAUDIBLE] AUTOMOTIVE.

THEY DID SURVEYS, CHANHASSEN, SHAKOPEE AND BACK IN THE WOODS 18 YEARS AGO.

SO IS THAT CONTAMINATED TO THEM? NO, BUT THEIR STORM SEWER HAD PRETTY HIGH GRADE, AND IF YOU NOTICE THAT WHEN YOU COME INTO THE PETCO AT THE BACK, THAT KIND OF UNNATURAL HUMP THERE, THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A GRADING ISSUE. THEN THE WATER PONDS OVER THERE ON THE OTHER END THAT WAS PUT THERE ON MY DAY OFF, THAT SITE WAS APPROVED FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT HASN'T BROKE GROUND.

SO THERE COULD BE.

THAT'S FRIDLEY, THOUGH. YEAH.

BEYOND THAT THERE ARE ADAPTIVE REUSE RE DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT THE FAIRVIEW BUILDING AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING WILL COME OF THAT, BUT THE OLD HY-VEE GAS STATION.

YEAH, THAT'D BE NICE.

HY-VEE MAINTAINS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A GAS STATION.

WHERE IS THAT? CENTRAL AND 45TH STREET [INAUDIBLE] GRAND CENTRAL FLATS.

OKAY, WHERE THAT VACANT.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PARCELS THERE.

[INAUDIBLE] FOUR GAS STATIONS, RIGHT OFF OF CENTRAL.

I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.

IT'S THEIR WAY OF SAYING BUZZ OFF, ERIC.

[CHUCKLING] YOU ALREADY GOT IN OUR FACE ON THE OTHER ONES.

YEAH, BUT IT'S A GREAT SITE.

I THINK IT HAS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL.

SO GOOD UPDATE AARON.

YES. YEAH. WELL JUST WANT TO THERE'S A LOT OF COOL STUFF PERCOLATING.

SO DO WE KNOW ROUGHLY IF WE'RE HAVING A MEETING NEXT? WE'RE NOT. GREAT QUESTION.

APPLICATION DEADLINE WAS YESTERDAY SO YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK.

THAT IN MIND YOU'RE OUT OF HERE, THEN.

OH IS THAT IT? IS THAT THE LAST [INAUDIBLE]? YEAH. YEAH. TAKE YOUR NAME PLATE.

MY FINAL ORDER OF BUSINESS WOULD BE TO CONGRATULATE COMMISSIONER HOIUM ON A WONDERFUL CAREER FOR THE CITY.

YES.

[APPLAUSE] YES. THANK YOU BOTH.

YEAH, MISSED OPPORTUNITY BY ME, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME SORT OF RECOGNITION FOR YOU, I BELIEVE, AT A COUNCIL MEETING IS WHAT WE DO AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

SO YOU NOMINATED HIM FOR SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE? YEAH, IT'S TIME TO STEP UP, STAN, AND THE NEXT LEVEL.

I TRIED.

IS STAN THE ONLY ONE UP OR? YES. YEAH, AND NOW THEY'VE INSTITUTED THE TERM LIMITS SO STAN BUTTS UP AGAINST THAT? I THINK I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU.

THIS COULD BE SIX YEARS ALREADY FOR YOU.

WHAT'S THAT? WOW.

I KNOW. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME.

[CHUCKLING].

WE LIKE TO RECYCLE COMMISSIONERS, SO.

AREN'T WE ALL MEETING FOR THAT TEARDOWN ON 44TH? RIGHT. YOU'RE BRINGING ICE? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

WE ARE SETTING UP A SUSTAINABILITY MISSION THIS SPRING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, WE SHOULD HAVE IT SET UP, I THINK, BY JULY, EITHER GO RUNNING AND THEN DO AN INTERVIEW IN I THINK MAY OR JUNE FOR APPLICATIONS FOR THAT COMMISSION AND I'M PUSHING FOR NOT JUST 5 TO 7, HOPEFULLY, I DON'T KNOW, LAST NIGHT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY DECISIONS.

TO HAVE A LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE SO THAT WE CAN, AND IT'S AN ACTIVE GROUP WHERE THEY CAN INITIATE--NO CARDIO, RIGHT? [CHUCKLING] CARDIO, NO, BUT ACTIVE IN THE SENSE OF INITIATING AND PROJECTS, AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF WILL BE PRESENTED STUFF, BUT ALSO COMMISSIONERS WILL BE ABLE TO WORK ON THINGS. A LOT OF CROSSOVER INITIATIVES THAT WOULD MESH WITH THIS BOARD.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HERE ONE MORE YEAR, THOUGH, RIGHT? YES. YEAH, ONE MORE YEAR.

YEAH. YOU'RE NOT DONE NOW.

DON'T GET TOO EXCITED.

[INAUDIBLE] OH, THAT'S FANTASTIC.

I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

YEAH YOU HAVE CONNIE TO THANK.

YEAH, IT ONLY TOOK SIX YEARS.

ALL RIGHT, FINALLY, WE HAVE A STAFF PERSON THAT WE COULD DO.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST HOLDUPS WAS FINDING A STAFF PERSON THAT COULD DEVOTE THE TIME TO IT.

THAT'S OUR NEW ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER.

YEAH, HE'S AWESOME.

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SO I'M STILL LEARNING.

[INAUDIBLE] GREAT GUY.

I REACHED OUT.

HE GOT BACK TO YOU? YEAH. AWESOME, HE'S OFF MY LIST.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, FOLKS.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE MEETING.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

CAN YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? [CHUCKLING] I CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR ME.

I BELIEVE THE CHAIR, OF ALL PEOPLE CAN MAKE, LIKE YOU CAN JUST SAY WE'RE ADJOURNED.

I DON'T KNOW WHY [INAUDIBLE]. OKAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURNED 7:26.



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.